If You Do Not Have Options...

joelsuf

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...She WILL flake.

Every single time, 100% of the time.

Oh yeah, this just happened to me and I should have seen it coming lol.

So I haven't really been doing much when it comes to hunting chicks as of late. Just swipe around a little bit, maybe "e-approach" a few chicks on OKC and POF, nothing too intense.

About a week ago I match with a chick on Tinder, we're getting along great, I invite her to a date, and she's down.

We text a little bit and we're building rapport and stuff, and tonight she wants to call. I tell her go ahead.

So my stupid ass is sitting here waiting for this chick to call while having ZERO additional options.

Is she gonna call?

Nope.

Show up for the date tomorrow?

Nope. She's ghosting, how can I expect her to show up for a date? lol.

This is basic shit but I don't see stuff like this in this board.

Chicks will ghost if you do not have other options. It's in their nature, getting salty about it reveals a lot of negative and unattractive characteristics about you.

If you don't have other options, don't get butthurt when the chick flakes and ghosts.

Get some other options, even if they are not attractive. It's perfectly fine to have options with like 8 unattractive chicks while you are trying to get with 2 attractive ones.

This is just something I needed to remind myself of lol. I dun goofed and got too much hype over one chick because I didn't have options. Whoops.
 

Lex

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If you don’t have chicks already in rotation it’s hard. Some think it’s harder for guys straight out of relationship, but thing is those guys atleast try, it’s just depends on their game and status.

It’s worst for a guy that probably has no motivation. This is the hardest part. You have to create an illusion at first, but be smart how you do it. Illusion is you have chicks interested but you’re not, so you’re laid back, and you’re seeking a “specific” person.

If this doesn’t work, I hate to say it but you have to start gaining with lower SMV level chicks to gain some steam on this train.

For example: I always give attention and joke around with those lower than my SMV no matter who they are, and I always tell them how they’re like a little sister to me. For some reason these like attacks their biological role, and they start doing things as if we were together for 5 years. How I get higher SMV than myself is, projecting what my mission is. Now the low SMV girls aren’t low just cause of looks, but their minds. But higher SMV will be jealous.

Overall, attitude is IDC.

However it’s hard to get this train rolling. So you have to either create an illusion in a laid back fashion, or literally comb the ladders from women you have no interest in, and never ask why she didn’t show up, ask what did you do to make her not show up, then fix that.
 

joelsuf

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you have to start gaining with lower SMV level chicks to gain some steam on this train.
Oh I agree with that, getting with lower SMV chicks can definitely build momentum so that you can get with some of the higher SMV ones.

For example: I always give attention and joke around with those lower than my SMV no matter who they are, and I always tell them how they’re like a little sister to me. For some reason these like attacks their biological role, and they start doing things as if we were together for 5 years.
I do the same thing and they do the same thing. In fact that is what happened on Wednesday with the chick I was talking about lol.

It’s worst for a guy that probably has no motivation. This is the hardest part.
Oh yes. I've been there. Boy have I ever been there. Fit right in there with the incels for a season too. I think the best thing someone with no motivation to get with chicks is just to be curious about them with no expectations or opinions about them that are presented by others.

Funny story, the chick I was talking about when I started this thread actually did hit me back up, we hung out, then we had sex after. This was after I just did some swiping and messaging and stuff.

Chicks know when you don't have options but they also know when you do, even when these options are just chicks you are swiping on or messaging on POF/OKC etc.
 

Lex

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Oh I agree with that, getting with lower SMV chicks can definitely build momentum so that you can get with some of the higher SMV ones.


I do the same thing and they do the same thing. In fact that is what happened on Wednesday with the chick I was talking about lol.


Oh yes. I've been there. Boy have I ever been there. Fit right in there with the incels for a season too. I think the best thing someone with no motivation to get with chicks is just to be curious about them with no expectations or opinions about them that are presented by others.

Funny story, the chick I was talking about when I started this thread actually did hit me back up, we hung out, then we had sex after. This was after I just did some swiping and messaging and stuff.

Chicks know when you don't have options but they also know when you do, even when these options are just chicks you are swiping on or messaging on POF/OKC etc.

They’ll sense it. If you don’t have options you really really have to be clever and shot.

Simple way a chick can tell you don’t have options is when you’re all into her.


This is why I love fucking with “independent” women.

First, those who aren’t independent , will make you believe Disney through lies ad manipulation.

Second, independent women, don’t need my money, and they get jerked by guys that are scared to make a move, the “orbiter”, and so on. I lead them my way, rightfully so cause I do have a business and my name is become very popular in my industry. The woman I deal with, don’t NEED not WANT my money. They just appreciate the higher men, and then game takes over with witty words, but my frame stays still. Which means they decide to marry a beta, etc it’s ok with me. I don’t trash them, etc and they always are somewhere, “there”.

For example, a hot girl today sent me a snap of herself playing on her laundry machine. I took a screen shot, sent back to her and asked HER would she fuck the girl in the pic. Her mind still doesn’t get it and asks why I did it cause nobody ever did that and she so interested why I did that? She’ll never understand the reason I did that was to keep her thinking, while I do other shit. I end every conversation with any girl, and I never start one.


So use principles. Time spent on how to get a girl can be spent on yourself.

I read a lot even in red pill forums etc how guys are trying to game girls, and throw some explanations why girl ain’t good lol.

Don’t be that joke. Be the MAN you want to be, and walk around like every female should be lucky for your attention, and when you get that, control that attention.

It’s very simple my man.
 

Pickle Rick

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Your filtering process is flawed.

Also, consider the location (meaning city) and the age.

This is not a problem but I'm not dating girls from the United States either. [gag]

Stating the obvious here. Have enough that if one drops the ball another is available.

Sizing them up is important. It may take more work but red flags will pop up during initial conversations and you will start to see more of pattern appear.

Initially, many won't show up because they don't know you. If you are truly and Alpa 2.0 you won't have this problem after they get to know you.

What you are really trying to do is get the power of MOMENTUM going. And sometimes that's like pulling that rope starter on old lawnmowers. But after the first time it fires up it's much easer. That's momentum and it happens with dating. After a dry spell (or worse afar failed attempt at monogamy) you struggle like hell to get a date. You finally get one. Then another girl is interested. Another is available. Don't worry about all the flakes and all the acronyms you're using. Live life. Do what you like and have fun. The rest falls into place. Sometimes it takes what modern men don't have a lot of but is essential--patience. Otherwise you are grabbing at straws and hanging out with women that don't empower (and are beneath) you and that causes you to make too many compromises and in turn causes problems.
 
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