MESSAGE FROM THE CAVEMAN: [SHIT TESTS ARE NORMAL]

Papi Knox

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MESSAGE FROM THE CAVEMAN:

[SHIT TESTS ARE NORMAL]

Most of the comments and questions in this room are based around a misunderstanding of the female trait known as the shit test

Let's break this down

1— Women date the best men they can

To do this they have to challenge their men to show up or get out, hence the shit tests

2— They don't know they're doing them

IN most cases, this is so natural women don't know they're doing them. There are few highly intelligent and competent women who do it purposefully, and in many cases, they were taught how to do so by competent men.

3— Shit tests are not malicious

Just because you're offended by some tests, doesn't mean it's a meant to offend you. Get over yourself, it's never personal.

4— You'll get them forever (from your partner, daughters, female coworkers etc)

Every women does this, even if you're not having sex with her

Hell the first shit test a girl does when she's born is force her dad to prove his mettle as a man in handling his business to raise her

5— Never take them seriously because they aren't

Take them in stride. Always respond to them in a jocular way that matches your personality.

Practice the habit of not taking shit test seriously, which will help you overall with women. They're basically fun challenges to test your mental and physical toughness, which most men don't do enough so welcome the challenge. They're fun.

6— How to fail a shit test

Failing shit test doesn't feel like failure to most. All that happens is that you fall down in stature to the woman. Doesn't mean much in and of itself.

Ultimately, you'll be taken less serious and seen as less reliable.

An unreliable man is useless and that's why men who don't follow the first five tips deal with nasty disrespect, and are generally unhappy.

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NOW here's the other part, which is worth noting.

Men shit test men too.

We're meant to challenge each other to be the best we can be, especially if we're neighbors. We need to make sure that we can take care of ourselves, each other, and our community. There can't be weak links in your squad, right?

That's why we test each other to make sure everyone is at the same level, and continually developing. This was how our parents and theirs were raised, but it's not a tradition they passed down to us.

Great example of the significance of this is of with the Spartans in 300. There's one scene that exemplifies this, and I'll post it in the comments.

Anywhats...

When men shit test, it can be malicious, and more

However the mark of all shit tests is that it's NEVER about the other person's comment and ALWAYS about You.

YOU and how you choose to handle it

Are you going to let it beat you or are you going to beat it?

Choice is yours

Choose wisely

Aim to beat the test (NOT the person or yourself)

Don't be a bitch

"Everything in life is an audition for a higher level"
 

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To me, shit tests don't exist. A chick is either down or she isn't down.

I know its in a chick's nature to test dudes but to me it's nothing but noise.

Chicks notice this from me and it seems like they know not to test me if they want me to stay interested.

The second a chick says any stupid shit to me (which to me is what a "shit test" is, passive-aggressive verbal diarrhea), I walk. Plenty of other chicks out there who respect themselves enough to be direct and straight up with me.

No matter how much a chick "tests" me, I invite them places anyways if I like them enough.

The whole concept of the "shit test" was invented by PUAs to make sure that their students get caught up wasting their energy speculating on what kind of stuff that they should be saying while giving them thousands of dollars just to hang out with them and learn nothing lol. Case in point: RSD.

After nearly a decade of screwing around with PUAism before closing the book on it in 2014, the only practical advice from it was from Gunwich who's advice was as simple as "make the ho say no."

That's what it's all about: Making the ho say no. Then of course walking away if she does say no haha.

IN most cases, this is so natural women don't know they're doing them.
So true. Sad too since in 90% of cases it isn't necessary especially now that a chick can accuse a dude who looks at her funny of harassment/assault lol. Seriously, I respect chicks who say "ehh, I'm just not attracted enough to you to go out with you" more than the passive-aggressive alternative. I say that to my FBs: "There's nothing wrong with telling a dude that he's a creep and that he isn't worth your time."

Men shit test men too.
Sad but true, and its a truly punchable offense in my opinion. I say that if a dude doesn't have the balls to be direct, then trade them in for a vagina. I'm serious.

Making fun and joshing is one thing, but being passive-aggressive? Unacceptable for dudes to do.

3— Shit tests are not malicious
True enough. Although they are not directly malicious, they are a sign of cowardice. Which might be worse...?
 

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2— They don't know they're doing them

IN most cases, this is so natural women don't know they're doing them. There are few highly intelligent and competent women who do it purposefully, and in many cases, they were taught how to do so by competent men.
Right on. Important to note this. And like you said, not to be sore about it.

Back when a smaller percentage of men were successfully reproducing and passing on their genetic legacy, women had to "test" for the strongest men, which seems to explain (from an evo-psych perspective) why women evolved to test men even subconsciously. It might not apply these days anymore when monogamy is the norm, and testing eventually turns into nagging where weak men are involved and leads to unhappy, sexless marriages, but for those of us men seeking multiple relationships, it's incumbent upon us to pass those tests and distinguish ourselves from the rest.
 

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To me, shit tests don't exist. A chick is either down or she isn't down.
I hear what you're saying, but don't ignore it

All women are silly before you fuck

Nothing she says before that is worth taking seriously

I'd encourage you to give them a chance to smash, then decide

After sex, you're dealing with a different person altogether
 
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As you saw in my other thread, I go through some weird, crazy shit tests, with women I don’t even approach.

I actually have this cute little young girl at McDonald’s drive thru that gives me shit tests believe it or not.

Women will always give a man a shit test when they interact.

If when a man meets a woman and she thinks you’re funny like her brother you say “hahaha that’s crazy, cause when I saw you, you reminded me of my sister (or sister I never had)”, and give a brotherly hug, then turn around and do your thing.

If a man comes around and she says “you remind me of my ex, and I hate him”, she wants to fuck you. Don’t ask about the ex, because the more she talks about him the more she will want to push you for whatever reason as if it was her ex and get into song stories as you’re emotional tampon before she become cold hearted . You just say “no, there’s only one me, and me only” and turn around.


They say things for a reason. Problem o discovered is with a strong game/frame they fall more than you’d want them to, then it goes emotional and dramatic, I’m trying to balance that.
 
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