The car question--What would BD Do?

[DeviantGent]

Quick question for Caleb or whoever might have insight on this.

What do you guys do about a car?

To provide perspective, I'm not one who thinks that the car plays a huge role in pick up--unless you're overtly looking exclusively for the shallowest of the shallow--and even in that case, it probably better be a 100-200k plus Bentley--I doubt BMW etc is going to cut it. Otherwise it's a point or two on the attraction scale in your favor and the rest is up to you.

But, if you're trying to play the role of "evil James Bond", it's hard to imagine 007 pulling up in a 2001 minivan--some things are just going to kill the image. In a big city there might be workarounds (subway etc), but on a lot of occasions it's going to be a big component of the initial impression, especially if you avoid talking about what you do etc.

That said, I do fairly well financially (low-mid six figures), but boy, do I hate dropping 20k cash on such a relentlessly depreciating asset.

Any thoughts?

 

[Papi Knox]

Any thoughts?

1— It matters and you can play it in your favor without breaking the bank

2— Where do you live? Country, State, City? (it matters)

3— What's your monthly/annual budget with insurance, gas, car wash, AAA, and maintenance in mind?

 

[DeviantGent]

Hey, thanks for the reply!

I live in Buffalo NY.

Budget wise, I could afford 2-3k/month (total) which equates to a pretty nice car d/t the magic/stupidity of lease to own options. My goal though is always as little as possible--I'm a practical guy and not a big car guy; throwing money at such an aggressively depreciating asset (a nice house you can at least somewhat justify d/t appreciation) isn't my style. If it weren't for the attraction aspect I would just drive a true beater, which I'm essentially doing now (15 year old sedan).

But at this point, I'm starting to think it's a problem, bad enough though that I suspect it's going to start affecting results. You can't wear a nice suit and tennis shoes. Plus it's a pretty good (not incredible--not yet) time to address this, used car market wise.

So yeah, any thoughts definitely appreciated.

 

[Papi Knox]

I'm a few hours away from you on the East side of NY

Owning a car out here is rough, though it helps if you have garage access

Take note the car is bait, no girl cares what you drive, but if you're a smart man who invests in something that shows your effortlessly aware of how the game is played

Personally, I'd grab my next whip, a Mercedes G-wagon as a lease or buy outright. Power. Status. Great for your region. And still money leftover to afford maintenance

But that's me and my swag

In your situation you can get just about anything short of a super car, assuming you lease.

For your budget, sell your car, and then put that money with your own cash to do one of the following moves you can get anything short of a super car

1— Find a a local car rental spot and see if you can make a monthly arrangement to have one of their cars at a discount rate. With your budget you can do this easily and drive a fun car for minimal effort, and give it back whenever you're bored and let them handle maintenance issues. This is what I'd do if I couldn't get the exact car I wanted

2— Hertz is filing for bankruptcy and practically giving away cars, check their site for a steal on clean, properly maintenance cars, built to drive well and be stylish. You can outright do #1, but buy it outright. Why not get a car that'll last you through the decade for a great deal

3— These are your luxury options worth buying used, Mercedes S63 AMG, Masserati Quattrosportz, Cadillac Escalade, Range Rover sport. Buy, own and flip for the an upgrade later

4— You're probably more comfortable in any Acura option, so this is a safe luxury option that's affordable to keep on the road. Not boring, but not too fun. I don't recommend it, but you may feel more comfortable with it

5— Depending on your driving preference buy used Mazda 3 or 6 or Volkswagen Passat or Jetta. I'm a Mazda man and would imagine you'd prefer that too. Stylish, smooth, unique, power, and reliable

6— If Volkswagen is your preference buy a used Golf, stick, and have fun on dates. Going on a long drive in this thing will be enjoyable

7— Buy used Audi A4 or A5 to set yourself apart from common men, including BMW owners

8— Finally, since you don't care about cars much, get a bike. It's cheap speed. A girl will love riding on it with you and forget about your main whip. An easy date is getting ice cream in a city far off, she'll love it. I don't know bikes, so you'll have to ask a professional

That's my take on getting a car that'll make you more money and improve girl conversion

Ultimately, no girl cares about your whip, unless you care. So if you're not converitng that's on you. Focus on that while considering your choice because no new car will change how girls feel about you as their reliable partner

 

[TheMaleBrain]

Quick question for Caleb or whoever might have insight on this.

What do you guys do about a car?

To provide perspective, I'm not one who thinks that the car plays a huge role in pick up--unless you're overtly looking exclusively for the shallowest of the shallow--and even in that case, it probably better be a 100-200k plus Bentley--I doubt BMW etc is going to cut it. Otherwise it's a point or two on the attraction scale in your favor and the rest is up to you.

But, if you're trying to play the role of "evil James Bond", it's hard to imagine 007 pulling up in a 2001 minivan--some things are just going to kill the image. In a big city there might be workarounds (subway etc), but on a lot of occasions it's going to be a big component of the initial impression, especially if you avoid talking about what you do etc.

That said, I do fairly well financially (low-mid six figures), but boy, do I hate dropping 20k cash on such a relentlessly depreciating asset.

Any thoughts?

I'm from Israel. Public transportation here is so-so (to say the least).
Unless you are in the middle of a metropolitan area - you need a car.

The car is a must for me - as some of my work is done at customer's premises.

For impression - you need a nice ride. But don't emphasize it for pickup. That's not the way to go.

Suggest the following:

1. A few years old nice car. Maintainable, solid nice car. Make sure it's clean when off to a new relationship (first few dates). Once you slept with her twice - relax on that.
2. I use SUV from 2011. It looks semi-new, and sit high on the road. I struggle with maintainability (it started visiting the garage more in the last 2-3 years). NOT A MINI VAN.
3. If SUV doesn't work for you - try another type of nice car. Again - maintainable and not too expensive. Dial down the years.
4. See if you can deduct it from your taxes. I looked it up and it wasn't worth it here. Maybe the tax code can bring some benefit on either the purchase or the operational expenses.

Hope I have been somewhat helpful.

 

[Duke]

I'm in the same boat. For starters, this is what Caleb would say:

https://calebjonesblog.com/how-to-live-without-a-car-part-1/

For first dates I'd just use the beater. There's no reason that she would see your car since if you're following Caleb's first date template you're gonna say bye to her at meet up place. If you're worried that you'll pull up to spot at same time, and she'll see the car just get an Uber.

On the second date you're gonna be inviting her to your place so you can have your car in the garage or parked across the street or something.

If she feels more comfortable at her place then rent a car or zip car for that day. Then after having sex twice, if she asks just say you were renting a car because yours wasn't working at the time.

There really is no reason to waste money to have an expensive car, unless you actually enjoy that sort of thing.

I also believe that the same applies to your house. You could stay in ratty/cheap apartment, but then rent a nice Airbnb for when you have the girl over.

At least that's what I do. Still cheaper than what I would pay for renting a nice place. And if they find out it's not my place, I just tell them that I didn't want them knowing where I live because how do I know if they're crazy.

 

[Papi Knox]

There really is no reason to waste money to have an expensive car, unless you actually enjoy that sort of thing.

Girls don't care about cares or material things at all

That said having a reliable car is an important status symbol since it shows that the man respects and cares for himself

Having a luxury car says the same thing at the highest level

At least that's what I do. Still cheaper than what I would pay for renting a nice place. And if they find out it's not my place, I just tell them that I didn't want them knowing where I live because how do I know if they're crazy.

Guys say this, but the real question is WHY do you live in a cheap spot?

The way you describe it screams insecurity and drives men and women away from you, in subtle ways

If you're embarrassed or ashamed about where you live, WHY do you live there?

If it bothers you, WHAT are you doing to get to the next level?

We're all here to build and grow, you have so many resources in this Forum alone to get there

Inside the Telegram Chat, guys are killing it in only their first 30 days https://t.me/AlphaMale2

I don't care where you live, but treat yourself with respect WHILE increasing your cash flow each month

Last year I was homeless, living inside my car. I still went on dates, went to work, dressed well, hair cut fly, ate steak, traveled, and no one ever knew I was homeless until I told them 6 months later. Why? Because I put myself first and I live a rich and full life regardless of my circumstances

That's the mindset you have whether you live in a cardboard box or on your own private island

Know your worth

Don't hide

Own who you are and what you do wherever you are.

That's what girls are into, men fearless and who handle their business. She'll follow you and fuck you wherever you take her if you're in that mode

If ya wanna level up join us Brother https://t.me/AlphaMale2

 

[Pickle Rick]

Sold house. Sold car. Moved out of United States.

Fuck paying insurance, maintenance, gas and all that fucking bullshit. Fuck that! What a fucking trap that is. I think the thought process these days with car manufacturing is "They need a car so we'll rape'em one way or another."

To me cars are all the fucking same: expensive and impractical and a big fucking pain in the ass. And they all look the same.

When you buy a car you buy a liability.

Although leasing wasn't the greatest option years ago if I had to have a car I would lease. That way you don't have to do any maintenance.

If you have to buy a car because you will log a lot of miles and the leasing mileage restriction doesn't work for you then you just have to do what you have to do.

I had a classic corvette and an an AMG Mercedes because I thought it would get me laid. What a fucking asshole I was. And what an epic fucking waste of time and money. They didn't. In fact, some girls didn't like the corvette (Old muscle cars tend to leak and have fumes).

I think the brainwashing today is it matters what you drive.

When in reality, no one gives a fuck. The consensus I got from dates was as long as it is clean, relatively new and it gets you from A to B.

 

[Papi Knox]

To me cars are all the fucking same: expensive and impractical and a big fucking pain in the ass. And they all look the same.

Are you sure?

I had a classic corvette and an an AMG Mercedes because I thought it would get me laid. What a fucking asshole I was. And what an epic fucking waste of time and money. They didn't. In fact, some girls didn't like the corvette (Old muscle cars tend to leak and have fumes).

You learned the hard way that that does not work. Question is did you learn the real lesson of why women were not interested in you?

I think the brainwashing today is it matters what you drive.

It does, but you do not know why yet

 

[T11]

which country city you living ? ask as only few countries give long term visa/stay
where did you pick the idea car would get laid , curious if from ad during your college days , did see college kids buy mustang

Moved out of United States.

I had a classic corvette and an an AMG Mercedes because I thought it would get me laid.

When in reality, no one gives a fuck. The consensus I got from dates was as long as it is clean, relatively new and it gets you from A to B.

 

[Pickle Rick]

which country city you living ? ask as only few countries give long term visa/stay
where did you pick the idea car would get laid , curious if from ad during your college days , did see college kids buy mustang

Mexico has a 180 day visa. I was in Thailand until the pandemic but things got pretty sticky in SE Asia so I had to leave. As far as leaving the U.S. I am on the same plan as Caleb looking at pretty much the same countries. SE Asia looks appealing at this time.

Incidentally, Thailand has become more strict of late--as of 2020--and their visa is only for thirty days. I don't know how it will go post-COVID-19 but as much as I like Mexico SE Asia has the infrastructure (Mexico is a wild card right now. If they play their cards right they can surpass the U.S.). If this was something you were interested in there are two options. You can train Muay Thai with the police. I think that is in Chiang Mai. Or you can get a student visa to study Thai. The cost isn't too bad. Neither of those options held much appeal. If you marry a Thai national it does not grant you residency or citizenship. I think it gives you a three or six months visa. That's it. Where as Brazil has one of the best options for marriage. Mexico isn't too bad. Their visa is good in 180 countries. But post-COVID-19 I'd say all bets are off.

"Where did I pick up the idea a car would get me laid." It was a thing years ago. A cool car increased your chances. No, college kids with Mustangs had nothing to do with it. LOL. Is that a back handed compliment or what. But now that you mention it, in college I had a piece of shit Honda Accord with no second gear. The doors didn't lock and I was dating several hot girls.

For me personally, I just don't want to deal with all the headaches that come with owning a car. And the nicer the car the worse it is. And the more expensive. Driving and road rage is another thing. This is all part of why Caleb and I are leaving the United States. If you lived here long enough you can see how things have declined. And car ownership and driving are one of the many things. Incidentally, for me, this is not subjective. It has nothing to do with the current president. The fact is the country is slipping on every measurable scale and metric. If you are savvy you can see it. If you are just visiting you might not. If you are from the middle east living in the United States may seem like a great thing. And for some I'm sure it is. I like to travel. And I don't see the United States going in a good direction.So for me it's on to other things.