What’s a good way to start?

Lex

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I read BD’s blog and it makes a lot of sense. I been searching for the internet a lot of things since February, and last week or so focused mostly on BD’s and found this community.

Growing up; I never approached women, they approached me since even middle school days. I spent 18-21 with one hot chick, I thought was meant for me forever: wrong. After her I slept around with females without trying, but they always wanted serious relationships and I’d break up after a month.

21-25 I spent driving a semi truck over the road. It would get lonely but I was making serious money. No house, no car, no debt. When I would visit friends and family I would go out and be my fun self at bars and would always hook up with someone. At 25, I met a chick on IG, she was 25 too, and we connected and she ended up leaving college to come in the truck with me (big mistake). We did get along really really well for 9 months and decided to have a kid. Then everything went to crap. I never married her because for some reason marriage didn’t feel right. I’m not a prince like in Disney, and I would feel like an idiot signing some paper work with the state.

We fought for custody, ended up being 50/50, and split expenses, no child support.
Prior to this arrangement we were together, but I was in Chicago, she was in FL, and I would send money to her and the kid, but I got hurt and couldn’t visit or send money for about 4 months. She started a new job, and met a guy that’s 28, she’s 30 now, and I’m 29 (about to be 30), and they moved in together after knowing each other for 2 weeks.
I found this out the hard way, by moving here and that’s where she gave me the “I want to be friends, there’s nobody else blah blah” line.

Now mind you, I never married, never wanted, and while we were together in the back of my mind I asked myself how do I escape this? Do I seriously want to spend time with this person for ever? I can’t eat the same soup everyday if you catch my drift. So she made me sick, I said the meanest but truest things to her because I really really wish for 0 contact. Just automated process of exchanging the child when we do have to.

After a lot of research, this is the lifestyle I always wanted.

Currently I work from home, and can work anywhere. I make $1300-$1500 gross a week (1099). Will be looking to make $2500 a week by April, ultimate goal by the end of next year to have $5,000 every Friday.

I have a nice car, IMO (BMW). I’m not a bad looking guy, but I do need to start going to the gym cause I feel my body isn’t as strong as it used to be, and I did gain about 20 pounds more than I should be for my absolute best.

I wasted time forcing myself for monogamous and Disney World fantasy through so many years that I didn’t focus on grooming, and my physical well being.

I have my kid from Friday to Friday, every other week. I financial support my parents. Due to this to save $$$ we live together, and I need to seek for new place of my own once my income gets higher.

My goals: increase my income, start spending time at the gym, and get my own place, but for the purpose of having women there, not my kid or friends.

Now here is the tough part: how do I approach women for this type of lifestyle? Most women I ever been with were one night stands or they wanted serious relationships, which once again I don’t want to waste my time with. Living here in Jacksonville, FL I don’t have many friends. The few I have are married and work/wife life. When I do go out I see nothing but couples. The few girls I saw at bars were fat, drinking, smoking; something I have no care for, since they’re always at the bar.


I started to use bumble but seems like the numbers game is a lot of work, and I haven’t had much success at all.

A lot of great perspective and advice here from you guys, if anyone has any advice of how I can pull this off I would greatly appreciate it, and hopefully can become a long time member here with the community.
 

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Hey kudos for being a good son and dad man. You got three goals right there, work on your financial life, work on your dating life, work on your body. Classic advice would be pick two to work on for a while (focus efforts for better results), after that there are guys who know their shit in each of those categories in these parts.
 
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Lex

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Hey kudos for being a good son and dad man. You got three goals right there, work on your financial life, work on your dating life, work on your body. Classic advice would be pick two to work on for a while (focus efforts for better results), after that there are guys who know their shit in each of those categories in these parts.
Thanks.
I agree, physical aspect is not only good for outside but inside how you feel/think.
My last 3 encounters in last 4 months:
I slept with one girl, 3 times. She wanted marriage, kids, etc. I told her no, and that’s that. She is 26.

Other one: 33 divorced without kids. Our convos are good. I let her contact me first, but we still haven’t got anywhere do to Logistics. But she’s cool and really good looking. I enjoy flirting with her.

And another 26 year old hot chick, but a complete gold digger that after 1st 30 minutes of hanging with I fully ignored.

I reached out to one of my “exes” that would sleep with me when ever I came to FL, regardless if she had a BF or not. I never bought her anything, not even a dinner. We would get to sex after 3 minutes of seeing each other. She also wanted a relationship, but I didn’t. I told her I’d do it if it can be non monogamous. She seemed like she was down for it, but didn’t sound to happy, and ignored me when I asked her to meet after first time she agreed. I didn’t say anything, I just left it alone the way it is.

Thats currently so far. I’m also wasting too much time talking with girls that are just “friends”. I have a long way to go.
 

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Lex,

I don’t have many friends. The few I have are married and work/wife life. When I do go out I see nothing but couples. The few girls I saw at bars were fat, drinking, smoking; something I have no care for, since they’re always at the bar.
This is what you find in most every city in the United States now when you go to a bar.

Of course, don't forget the ugly tattoos.

The alternative is online game.

Or visit another country.

Unfortunately, Tinder and most dating apps will yield the same results unless you want to be a cunt like Bilzerian and pay women to be your entourage.

This is not to say you will not find the proverbial needle in the haystack. It will just take a lot more time and a lot more resources to find it.

Here's what I have observed of late:

1. No one gives a shit what kind of car you drive anymore. Not these days. If you want to make an impression to get laid use Uber and then take Uber black the last few miles before you meet her or use Uber Black the night you fuck her. I have a Mercedes AMG and I am selling it because it is a piece of shit and fuck every buying a car again. Leasing, but that' another story.​
2. From what I understand is Jacksonville OK but you be limited to mostly white trash. Move. Explore. Adventure.​
3. For girls over thirty you will be hard pressed to find a woman who is not an idiot with issues. It's just how things are now. You will find much better options outside the country. The younger the better.​
4. If you choose to stay in the United States your best options are married women or ones in a relationship already.​
 
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Lex

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Lex,



This is what you find in most every city in the United States now when you go to a bar.

Of course, don't forget the ugly tattoos.

The alternative is online game.

Or visit another country.

Unfortunately, Tinder and most dating apps will yield the same results unless you want to be a cunt like Bilzerian and pay women to be your entourage.

This is not to say you will not find the proverbial needle in the haystack. It will just take a lot more time and a lot more resources to find it.

Here's what I have observed of late:

1. No one gives a shit what kind of car you drive anymore. Not these days. If you want to make an impression to get laid use Uber and then take Uber black the last few miles before you meet her or use Uber Black the night you fuck her. I have a Mercedes AMG and I am selling it because it is a piece of shit and fuck every buying a car again. Leasing, but that' another story.​
2. From what I understand is Jacksonville OK but you be limited to mostly white trash. Move. Explore. Adventure.​
3. For girls over thirty you will be hard pressed to find a woman who is not an idiot with issues. It's just how things are now. You will find much better options outside the country. The younger the better.​
4. If you choose to stay in the United States your best options are married women or ones in a relationship already.​
Oh man, yeah it’s been weird since so many women are programmed to that Disney crap BD talks about. I said a car, in means nothing to be ashamed off and a good means to get around.

I spent some time yesterday on bumble and tinder , and man, it’s a lot of trash and weird people there. Totally see the moms wanting “someone”, but “no more kids”, etc.

Today I woke up and some girl contacted me on tinder. I’d say she’s an 8/10 in my book. We talked for 2 minutes and she ended up giving me her number to get more of my pics after I asked to meet for a coffee.

I will keep you guys updated for advice if I do meet up with her and how it goes.

I really want to swing this somehow majority because women will always come and go, but I don’t wish to be stuck in the insane dramatic parts in between.

I am also thinking about going down to Flagler college for some day and night game on the weekends cause it’s a lot of girls from out of state.
 

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tl;dr

What's the question (or questions)?
 

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Thanks.
I agree, physical aspect is not only good for outside but inside how you feel/think.
My last 3 encounters in last 4 months:
I slept with one girl, 3 times. She wanted marriage, kids, etc. I told her no, and that’s that. She is 26.

Other one: 33 divorced without kids. Our convos are good. I let her contact me first, but we still haven’t got anywhere do to Logistics. But she’s cool and really good looking. I enjoy flirting with her.

And another 26 year old hot chick, but a complete gold digger that after 1st 30 minutes of hanging with I fully ignored.

I reached out to one of my “exes” that would sleep with me when ever I came to FL, regardless if she had a BF or not. I never bought her anything, not even a dinner. We would get to sex after 3 minutes of seeing each other. She also wanted a relationship, but I didn’t. I told her I’d do it if it can be non monogamous. She seemed like she was down for it, but didn’t sound to happy, and ignored me when I asked her to meet after first time she agreed. I didn’t say anything, I just left it alone the way it is.

Thats currently so far. I’m also wasting too much time talking with girls that are just “friends”. I have a long way to go.
That's totally fine and all but again you gotta go hard on two things not three. Want to make more money? No worries work on that, dating? Cool, gym? Nice, but do two out of three and go hard on them.

Sounds like you're interested in dating right now so that can be one, so are you going to be researching and working on your finances or your gym time alongside that?
 

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I started to use bumble but seems like the numbers game is a lot of work, and I haven’t had much success at all.
You're overthinking all of this and writing to much on the topic. You're not a unicorn, just a man like the rest of us.

Approach this like we would.

1— Figure out how you want to date just FBs? FBs and a couple MLTRS? OLTR and FBs?
2— Choose how you'll go about opening 100s of women (daygame, club game, online dating, IG, work, etc)
3— Open 250 per week combined all options you choose.
4— Convert to dates, apply Caleb's system.

There's no one lifestyle where you have to do things differently. Be a dominant man who moves through life with competence. Be strong, smart, powerful, then act with purpose to get what you want, including your women.

Get after it Brother.
 

Lex

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You're overthinking all of this and writing to much on the topic. You're not a unicorn, just a man like the rest of us.

Approach this like we would.

1— Figure out how you want to date just FBs? FBs and a couple MLTRS? OLTR and FBs?
2— Choose how you'll go about opening 100s of women (daygame, club game, online dating, IG, work, etc)
3— Open 250 per week combined all options you choose.
4— Convert to dates, apply Caleb's system.

There's no one lifestyle where you have to do things differently. Be a dominant man who moves through life with competence. Be strong, smart, powerful, then act with purpose to get what you want, including your women.

Get after it Brother.
Luckily tonight.
I went to get my car detailed and went to get a hair cut, and saw my buddy bar next to the place. Eventually he dragged me to a strip club.

I sat next to a stripper 18, on her break. Hot, we watched animal channel. We laughed and talked I don’t go to strip climbs but here I was. So without spending money she gives me her number after we talked non monogamous stuff, she ain’t about monogamy.

To be honest. I spent my entire life “being the man” and abuse my feelings and here is the reality. To me this is new. The pick up game, I can pick up girls, but to run this lifestyle I’m looking for support as far as how to go about it. Because I still have that “I’m wrong” by thinking like this unless I meet women alike and it’s rare.
 

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Luckily tonight.
Not luck. Nature.

You were relaxed, confident, and fun. That's all this takes. Stay consistent and you'll go beyond this in short order. Like I said, don't overthink this.

The rest comes from experience. I will get you a list of books to help you on your journey though.
 
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Lex

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Not luck. Nature.

You were relaxed, confident, and fun. That's all this takes. Stay consistent and you'll go beyond this in short order. Like I said, don't overthink this.

The rest comes from experience. I will get you a list of books to help you on your journey though.
Thanks
When I was 23 I dated a chick 36-38 that ran a strip club. It’s the easiest pick up for me actually, and naturally I avoid it because it’s not a challenge.

I told the girl, I’m not going to be a “regular” etc via phone if that’s what’s she wants it’s a waste of both of our time. All she said was “that’s why I made plans outside”. I’m still warming up, but have things lined up. I will keep updates and share my worst and best and hoping for advice for better.

by the way, I love your “a little bit of this and a little of that” line, and they all ask if it’s legal, and I ask them if they’re legal. Lol I like that line!
 
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